Concrete drainage ditches – Tuesday Ladies Local Rule
The new rule permits complete relief from all concrete drainage ditches:
-Nearest point of complete relief.
-Nearest to your ball’s original spot, but not nearer the hole than that spot.
-Estimate this point using the club you will use for your next shot.
Note: See definitions page 143 in your 2019 Rules book for more information.
8th Teresa Costantino
13th Lois Schwieters
14th Ginny Dudik
18th Rebecca Brown
It is with heavy heart to report that Ron Astimendi, good friend and golfing buddy, passed away at 4:00 AM this morning. He went quickly and peacefully surrounded by his family, as was his wish. Nancy would like to express her love to all for their thoughts and prayers. Services are pending.
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Local Rule for MLWC Tuesday Play Day
Effective August 1st, 2019, the following will be used for the Lift, Clean and Place Rule:
You may move the ball no more than six (6) inches in like conditions. If the ball is in the rough it stays in the rough, cannot be moved from rough to fairway.
The Weekly Tournament Chairs and Major Tournament Chairs will determine the rules of play and notify players that day if Lift, Clean and Place does not apply.
Change in Standing Rule approved and effective as of Aug 7, 2018
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RULES: Shirley Dowdle: Per meeting Feb. 6, 2018
1. # 9 of the Palms and #14 of the Lakes are the only concrete ditches that you get relief from.
2. Stones in bunkers can be removed without a penalty.
3. #14 of the Palms, if your ball goes in the water after it crosses the water, you can play it from where it went into the water.
4. French drains are always ground under repair.
5. It is best to ask a player to mark her ball on the green because if you are putting on the green and hit her ball it is a two stroke penalty on you.
6. If your ball comes to rest on the concrete surrounding the lakes, it is a penalty even if you are playing lift clean and place. If I have missed anything or you are unsure of anything please call Shirley.
February 24, 2018
This subject has come up a number of times, I will try to clarify the Rules from the USGA Book. I'm only going to address the Bunkers only. The goal is to understand the difference between abnormal ground conditions and unplayable lies in the bunker.
Rule 25: ABNORMAL GROUND CONDITIONS; 25-1 (ii) a / b :
In the Bunker: If your ball is in the bunker with abnormal ground conditions (ie. water erosion area, mud,) the player must lift and drop it to the nearest point of relief either:
(a) Without penalty, the nearest point of relief must be in the bunker, or if complete relief is impossible as near as possible to the spot, you must
drop where you can get the maximum relief available within the bunker.
(b) Under penalty of one stroke, outside the bunker, keeping the point where the ball lay directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped,
with no limit how far behind the bunker the ball can be dropped.
Breach of rule: Match play - loss of hole - Stroke play - two strokes
Rule 28 : BALL UNPLAYABLE IN BUNKER PLAYER'S OPTIONS;
If the player deems her ball to be unplayable, she must under penalty of one stroke.
a. Proceed under stroke and distance by playing a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played.
b. Drop a ball behind the point where the ball lay, keeping that point directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped in the bunker.
c. Drop a ball within two club lengths of the spot where the ball lay, but not nearer the hole ( in the bunker).
Breach of rule: Match play - loss of hole - Stroke play - two strokes
We have established a local rule that if the bunker is entirely unplayable, you may remove your ball from the bunker and drop it (or place it, if playing lift, clean and place) outside the bunker no closer to the target.
In today's meeting a question was asked about a putting rule.
If a ball is in motion on the putting green and it might be influence by another ball, can you run in and move that ball be moved?
Rule 16-1b :
When another ball is in motion, a ball that might influence the movement of the ball in motion must not be lifted.
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We will consider that you are in the hazard if your ball is touching the fence as you could reasonably assume that without the fence you would be in the water or on the concrete ledge. If the ball is not touching the fence, you are not in the hazard (even if within the red line) and will play the ball without penalty. If the fence interferes with your swing or stance, you get relief of one club length (any club in the bag including the driver) from where your ball lies, no closer to the hole without penalty.
Effective Dec. 1, 2018
Proposed By-Law Change 10-29-19
Standing Rule #8
Current: Members of MLWGA may bring a guest on Tuesday Ladies Days. The guest may not participate in sweeps. When the game of the day does not allow guest participation, the member and her guest will be allowed to follow the field. The Weekly Tournament Chairperson must be notified prior to any guest participation.
Proposed: Members of MLWGA may bring a guest on Tuesday Ladies Day. The guest may not participate in sweeps. When the game of the day does not allow guest participation (i.e. a team game or mixer), the member and her guest will be allowed to follow the field. The Vice President/Weekly Tournament Chairperson must be notified prior to any guest participation. An individual may only play as a guest three times in one year. The three times excludes the MLWGA Invitational
MENIFEE LAKES WOMEN’S GOLF ASSOCIATION
MINUTES OF GENERAL MEETING FOR OCTOBER 1, 2019
Meeting called to order by Ist VP Lois at 1:42 p.m. as our President was not present.
Minutes from last month’s meeting are now posted downstairs and were emailed to all members. Minutes were moved by Lyn Robbins, seconded by Pam and approved as written.
PRESIDENT: Teresa Costantino: Not present.
TOURNAMENT CHAIR-1ST VP: Sandy Meng/Sarah Case/Lois Schwieters: Nothing to report.
MAJOR TOURNAMENTS: Marietta Vinmans/Nancy Astamendi: Gross and net payments will be made for our Partner’s Eclectic after our final round next week. Our overall winners will be low net over the field.
SECRETARY: Lynn Provenzano/Nancy Astamendi: Nothing to report.
TREASURER: Sohair Saad: Not present. Report given by Lois. Unrestricted Balance: $2,205.06 Hole in One: $281.93 Ending Balance: $2,486.99
HOLE IN ONE: Sohair Saad: Not present.
HANDICAP: Sandy Fiscus: Nothing to report.
RULES: Shirley Dowdle: Nothing to report.
MEMBERSHIP: Lyn Robbins: It is time to pay our dues for next year. The dues will remain at $80.00 and are delinquent on the 15th of November. If you have any changes from last year let Lyn know so that she can make the changes for our new Hand Book. Lyn read the birthdays for October. We have 4 new members due to ladies checking out our website, thank you Linda Owens for your work on this.
BOARD ADVISOR/PARLIAMENTARIAN: Sue Thomas: As head of the nominating committee, Sue presented the following candidates for our board for 2020. President: Marietta Vinmans. VP: Sarah Case and Lois Schwieters. Major Tournaments: Nancy Astamendi and Sandy Meng. Secretary: Teresa Brown (Nancy will serve as back up in Teresa’s absence). Treasurer: Sohair Saad. Rules: Patti Bronson. Handicap: Shirley Dowdle. Membership: Lyn Robbins. Board Advisor/Parliamentarian: Sue Thomas. Additional nominations from the floor will be considered at our November meeting prior to the vote. Members may be reluctant to volunteer for board positions as they are not aware of the requirements of a position. It was proposed to offer internships to anyone interested in serving. As an intern you would be permitted to observe at a board meeting.
Birdies: Twink Reed: Not present.
RINGER: Nancy Astamendi/Lois Schwieters: Nothing to report.
SOCIAL: Sandy Meng/ Luana Coleman: Nothing to report.
SB & R: Sarah Case: Sarah will be accepting checks of $15.00 for next year’s dues. This month’s play will be at Paradise Knolls. Our club shirts will remain the same.
SUNSHINE FUND: Pam Choi: Pam visited Laura who is doing well. Marilyn Pope is having trouble with her foot. Diane is waiting to have her knee replaced.
WEBMASTER: Linda Owens: Nothing to report.
OLD Business: 1. A sheet is going around to sign up for our Oasis Mixer. Our Christmas Party will be discussed at the next general meeting.
NEW BUSINESS: 1. Next year’s calendar is being revised. If you have any input for Sarah or Lois on the games let them know.
MEETING ADJOURMENT: It was moved by Linda Owens, and seconded by Sarah to adjourn the meeting at 2:00 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: Lynn Provenzano/Nancy Astamendi.